Fix the Workflow First: AI That Sticks in Small Business

July 29
31 mins

Episode Description

Most companies buy AI backwards — they pick a platform before they have named what they are actually trying to fix. James Ernst of Core Order thinks that single inversion explains most of the disappointment small and mid-sized businesses feel about AI.

James spent eighteen years in marketing and public relations at agencies around the country, took a three-year detour running his own restaurant in Buffalo, and has spent the last two years working in AI full time. Core Order isn't an AI agency — he calls it a growth architecture firm, and the distinction is the whole argument.

In this episode

  • The question that comes before the tool — not which platform to buy, but what you are trying to make structurally better.
  • Why tools go unused — departments each buy their own, a few people adopt them, and the company's data ends up scattered exactly where AI can't reach it.
  • Homebrew vs. off-the-shelf — pull data from the CRM you already pay for via API or an MCP server, then build the narrow workflow around it.
  • Security and hallucination — the only two objections James hears in every room, and how he answers each.
  • Financial data specifically — locked-down databases, enterprise accounts where your inputs aren't training the model, and locally hosted open-source models.
  • An agent swarm that researches prospects — feed it a domain and a contact name, get back a company profile and recommended services.
  • Regulated industries — capturing HIPAA constraints, red lines and approved language in the discovery session instead of after something goes wrong.
  • Four hours a week to thirty minutes — the concrete win, and why the reclaimed time goes back to your people rather than into a headcount cut.

Chapters

  • (00:00) Villain origin story — eighteen years in PR, and a restaurant
  • (03:09) What a “growth architecture firm” actually does
  • (04:39) The subscription graveyard every business has
  • (06:25) Homebrew or off-the-shelf?
  • (08:09) Making sure AI says the right thing about you
  • (10:29) Internal workflows first, AI search later
  • (11:28) The two objections: security and hallucination
  • (12:41) Where the wins actually show up
  • (13:50) Is your financial data safe?
  • (15:38) Case study: an agent swarm that researches prospects
  • (17:22) Hot take — superpower or distraction
  • (18:50) Regulated industries and approved language
  • (21:39) Which verticals are primed
  • (23:40) The pain point underneath everything is time
  • (25:14) On being kind to the robots
  • (26:10) Imposter syndrome at the frontier
  • (28:45) AI slop and the rising value of human work
  • (31:11) Where to find James Ernst

Notable quotes

“The first question you should be asking is not which tool should we buy, but what are we trying to make structurally better?” — James Ernst
“AI could either be a superpower or a distraction.” — James Ernst
“I don't leverage AI to write anything for me, because that is such a part of the human process that I want to keep.” — James Ernst

Resources & links

About the show

Unscripted Small Business is hosted by Jeremy Rivera. Full episode archive at unscriptedsmallbusiness.com.

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