Zach returns from Italy with a sobering reminder from Rome’s ruins that every earthly kingdom eventually falls, but the kingdom of God keeps moving forward. Jase, Al, and Zach dig into how trials expose what comfort hides, and what it means to have a double-minded soul. Jase helps Zach’s son, Bear, through a panicky faith moment, and it ends up being an awesome reminder of the courage young Christians need in today’s world. 

In this episode: James 1, verses 1–8; James 2; Acts 15; Galatians 2; Hebrews 12; Matthew 5, verses 21–22; Matthew 23, verse 17; Ephesians 2, verses 8–10; Genesis 2, verse 15; Hebrews 5, verse 14

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Chapters

00:00 Jase & Al Admit They Need Zach

07:05 The Faith-and-Works Debate

13:45 Faith, Family & Freedom 2026

19:33 Little Man’s Deep Thoughts 

25:10 Zach’s Italy Trip 

32:05 Why James and Paul Weren’t at Odds

38:11 The Wisdom Behind the Law

42:24 Double-Minded Faith

47:33 Work Was Never the Curse

51:15 The Difficulties of Counting Trials as Joy

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