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(00:00) Introduction and welcome

(01:13) Discussion about Jim's recent theater production

(05:00) Setting up the discussion: Church building programs

(06:35) Biblical perspective from Luke 14 on counting the cost

(09:07) Jim's church history and initial building phases

(14:06) Financial considerations for building

(17:56) Discussion on church growth and potential solutions

(25:00) Financial wisdom in building programs

(28:51) Strategies for churches with space constraints

(35:00) Closing thoughts on church planting and building