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Why Data Is the Next $1 Trillion Market

July 8

1h 6m

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Today's show:

How many startups matter in tech? Fewer than you think. That's why venture capitalists are tripping over themselves to get onto their cap tables, no matter the cost. Why? Footwork's Nikhil Basu Trivedi argues that the Valley has never been more "power-law-pilled" than it is today. Basu Trivedi joined Cendana Capital's Michael Kim and TWiST's Alex Wilhelm to go deep on secondary markets, the state of startup M&A, why the SaaSpocalypse may be temporary, and what could trigger a retrenchment of the AI trade. It's Wednesday, so it's time for our venture capital roundtable to go deep on how VCs are investing today, and where on the horizon they have their eyes fixed!

Guest links:

Nikhil Basu Trivedi https://x.com/nbt

Footwork https://www.footwork.vc/

Michael Kim https://x.com/MKRocks

Cendana Capital https://www.cendanacapital.com/

Show links:

The USVC-Anduril blowup https://x.com/ankurnagpal/status/2072701195714531398

Kline Hill Cendana Partners https://www.secondariesinvestor.com/kline-hill-and-cendana-raise-400m-for-second-vc-secondaries-fund/

GPTZero's exit https://gptzero.me/news/preserving-whats-human/

Salesforce buys Fin https://www.salesforce.com/news/press-releases/2026/06/15/salesforce-signs-definitive-agreement-to-acquire-fin/

Vercel buys Better Auth https://vercel.com/blog/vercel-acquires-better-auth

Figma buys Bud https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/07/figma-acquires-team-behind-a-vibe-coding-app/

Protoge https://withprotege.ai/

Windborne https://windbornesystems.com/

Etched https://www.etched.com/

Lovable's reported raise https://sifted.eu/articles/lovable-300m-13-2bn-valuation

Josh Browder https://x.com/Joshuabrowder

Timestamps:

0:00 Introduction: Nikhil Basu Trivedi (Footwork) & Michael Kim (Cendana Capital)

1:59 The Anduril vs. USVC secondary market blowup

4:08 Why Silicon Valley is 'power-law-pilled'

8:23 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!

9:37 Information asymmetry in the secondary markets

9:45 Every.io — For all of your incorporation, banking, payroll, benefits, accounting, taxes or other back-office administration needs, visit https://every.io

15:02 Is SPV fraud smoke or fire?

16:32 Superhuman acquires GPTZero

19:54 Agree.com - Stop chasing invoices and automate your entire contract-to-cash stack. Go to https://agree.com and tell them Jason sent you to get 50% off for life!

21:10 The M&A wave

27:19 The SaaSpocalypse debate

29:59 DigitalOcean - Head to https://do.co/twist to start building on DigitalOcean's AI-Native Cloud today — and cut your AI workload costs by up to 50%.

30:44 Data's moment in the energy → compute → data loop

35:01 Where will AI value accrue?

40:04 What could cause an AI correction?

42:17 Why some companies are "too big to miss"

46:23 China's possible open-weight model ban

53:28 Young founders: Etched, Thiel Fellows, Z Fellows, Neo

55:33 Portfolio spotlight: WindBorne's weather balloons and data moat

58:47 Michael's favorite fund manager: Josh Browder

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