Have you ever gotten exactly what you wanted, only to wait for something to go wrong? That's where Brenda is in today's episode — alcohol-free, feeling like herself again, and quietly afraid to believe it will last. In the second session, Emma has spent five years in a cycle she can't seem to break, and she finally gets a look at what's really underneath it. Two coaches, two guests, two conversations that go to some genuinely surprising places. 

Brenda discusses:

• Why her alcohol freedom has felt "too easy" — and what that fear is really about

• How knowledge and science shifted her desire, not just her behavior

• The one-year and five-year visualization exercise that changed everything

• Reframing past "failures" as data points that guided her to exactly where she is

• Building self-trust day by day through The Path community

• And more…

Emma discusses:

• Her five-year cycle of months alcohol-free followed by weeks drinking again

• Why alcohol gave her permission to feel emotions she couldn't access otherwise

• Connecting with an emotional armor that formed in childhood to protect her

• An IFS-style coaching exercise to meet the "bouncer at the gate" with curiosity

• The moment her armor responded: "I've been so lonely"

• And more…

Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be and provides a safe, compassionate, and judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time.

Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/

Cole Harvey is a certified Naked Mind Senior Coach. For years, he felt lost and used alcohol as a way to cope, until he decided to go alcohol-free and focus on finding his purpose. Through curiosity, self-compassion, and adventure, he transformed his life. As a habit change and mindset coach, Cole helps young men understand themselves, build better habits, and find meaning.

Learn more about Coach Cole: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/cole-harvey/

Episode links: nakedmindpath.com

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