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750 how to talk about pay, benefits & your value at work (with Matt McFarlane)

Dec 21, 2025
51 mins

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Talking about pay can feel awkward, emotional and high-stakes but avoiding it can quietly stall your career. In this episode, Shell is joined by compensation expert Matt McFarlane to unpack whatโ€™s really happening in the job market, how to talk about money earlier (not when resentment hits), and the non-salary levers that matter just as much as dollars.


๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿพ why the pay market feels โ€œbeigeโ€ right now

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿฟ earning vs learning, why changing jobs boosts pay and the cost to employers

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป how to raise pay conversations with your employer

๐Ÿ‘‰ why are there a lot of people job hugging right now?

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ loyalty, trust & the changing employer-employee relationship

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿฝ making money conversations less awkward

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿพ benefits beyond salary that actually matter


Connect with Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewmcfarlane/

Check out his website: fndn.com.au


Connect with Shell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelley-johnson/

If you lead teams, check out Shelleyโ€™s business, Boldside: https://www.boldside.com.au/


Shell & Glenโ€™s book 'Sort Your Career Out & Make More Money' is available here: https://amzn.to/4k3YSrr


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