Claire and Gautham Rao get into why, exactly, this guy is often ranked the worst president of a country with a lot of truly awful presidents.

Guest

Our guest Gautham Rao is an Associate Professor of History at American University. His newest book, White Power: Policing American Slavery is available here. Follow him on Bluesky @gauthamrao, and on Instagram @rao__gautham, or visit his website here.

Sensitive Themes & Topics

Slavery, racism and racial violence

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