Zach is joined by Michael Pina to break down what they learned from Spurs-Pistons. Then, they power rank the middle of the Western Conference before closing the show with a look at Zion Williamson and saying one nice thing about a team that’s tanking.

(0:00) Welcome to The Zach Lowe Show!

(2:30) Michael Pina joins the show!

(3:38) Spurs were able to handle Pistons physicality

(10:12) This showed why Detroit will struggle to win a title

(22:51) Can teams with no postseason experience win a championship?

(36:33) Power ranking the 3-7 seeds in the west

(39:26) Have the most faith in the Nuggets

(49:55) Minnesota is still dangerous despite their record

(55:31) What has gone wrong with Houston?

(1:07:54) Luka’s complaining has reached new heights

(1:13:38) The State of Zion Williamson

(1:28:18) One nice thing about a tanking team

Host: Zach Lowe

Guest: Michael Pina

Producers: Mike Wargon, Jonathan Frias, and Billy Gil

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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