Robert, Jake and Khabat interview ISIS brides and their victims in an attempt to understand how Rojava's utopian dreams can co-exist with the brutal realities of terrorism and justice.

Music: "Bella Ciao" by Astronautalis (feat. Subp Yao & Rickolus)

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