From a back-corner “unofficial” interview at Bitcoin Investor Week, Jordi Visser explains why AI is the real macro driver and why markets can grow even without hiring as profit margins expand. He breaks down the shocking new correlation: Bitcoin tracking software ETFs, driven by liquidity, multiple compression, and the collapse of VC funding as AI becomes the “new shiny toy.” The conversation goes deeper into AI agents transacting, the coming shift in consumer payments, and why NFTs return as proof-of-authenticity in a world where AI makes fakes effortless.