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We have a ton of experience in theater and business, but look—we definitely don’t know everything! We are still learning as we go, and we want to share that journey with you.

While we talk a lot about the arts, this podcast is really for everyone. It is a show about chasing your biggest dreams and just going for it. Our goal is to be the spark—the change, the energy, and the positive push that moves our friends, families, and networks forward.

Whether you are an artist, a business owner, or just trying to figure out your next step, tune in for real stories, great guests, and a lot of laughs as we figure it out together!

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League","episode-14-the-inland-theater-league","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/11846531-episode-14-the-inland-theater-league.mp3",22435609,1864,"2022-12-10T05:00:00Z",14,"764470c8-fc10-46a0-8718-9876fa873f9a","Episode 15: Unique Shows","episode-15-unique-shows","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/11882268-episode-15-unique-shows.mp3",24428621,2030,"2022-12-16T03:00:00Z",15,"f21d4e4b-0ccc-41fc-92c8-28f5f0f766f5","Episode 16: Directors Who Precast","episode-16-directors-who-precast","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/11924322-episode-16-directors-who-precast.mp3",23793237,1977,"2022-12-23T17:00:00Z",16,"ce676f1d-cf9c-4406-aa2b-a1f7258c2219","Episode 17: Reaching New Goals","episode-17-reaching-new-goals","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/11951574-episode-17-reaching-new-goals.mp3",19667974,1633,"2022-12-30T07:00:00Z",17,"ec81beea-401c-4d7a-bf41-087d6cd40f97","Episode 18: The Zach Michel 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Falatea","episode-22-guest-gabe-falatea","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12179677-episode-22-guest-gabe-falatea.mp3",22520231,1871,"2023-02-03T22:00:00Z",22,"cda0f27e-37ae-4e9a-9707-1332e631fcac","Episode 23: Problems With Actors","episode-23-problems-with-actors","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12228037-episode-23-problems-with-actors.mp3",20734400,1722,"2023-02-10T21:00:00Z",23,"d555bd9c-cacd-470b-b2b9-bb885bdffd82","Episode 24: Theater College Degree VS Practical Experience","episode-24-theater-college-degree-vs-practical-experience","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12276890-episode-24-theater-college-degree-vs-practical-experience.mp3",19639506,1631,"2023-02-18T01:00:00Z",24,"a29825e4-7dc9-443d-90ce-ca78c86e4dc3","Episode 25: Lessons From Our Dads","episode-25-lessons-from-our-dads","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12324830-episode-25-lessons-from-our-dads.mp3",21206174,1761,"2023-02-25T05:00:00Z",25,"a33af914-2f89-4ec0-91be-eb8f151c0862","Episode 26: Cathy Flores Interviews Michael Tennant","episode-26-cathy-flores-interviews-michael-tennant","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12455460-episode-26-cathy-flores-interviews-michael-tennant.mp3",46953331,3907,"2023-03-16T18:00:00Z",26,"5de44054-a880-4a33-97cc-6c05f537dc26","Episode 27: Legendary Broken Bones","episode-27-legendary-broken-bones","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12512110-episode-27-legendary-broken-bones.mp3",29309986,2437,"2023-03-25T06:00:00Z",27,"38e7c795-82a9-4824-bd19-9da1cd774c9a","Episode 28: Actors Who \"Audition Around\"","episode-28-actors-who-audition-around","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12651139-episode-28-actors-who-audition-around.mp3",20930337,1738,"2023-04-14T17:00:00Z",28,"072672ad-2afe-4d4b-a15d-5109d62545bf","Episode 29: The Girl In The Picture","episode-29-the-girl-in-the-picture","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12698572-episode-29-the-girl-in-the-picture.mp3",23050318,1915,"2023-04-21T22:00:00Z",29,"7c3fa8ee-ba60-4779-809c-c8300adea484","Episode 30: Theater Group On Blast","episode-30-theater-group-on-blast","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12742573-episode-30-theater-group-on-blast.mp3",18394671,1527,"2023-04-28T15:00:00Z",30,"49a50e7d-7af0-45f8-aeb3-edbf5f3667ee","Episode 31: Actors Who Usurp The Director/Method Acting","episode-31-actors-who-usurp-the-directormethod-acting","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/12796496-episode-31-actors-who-usurp-the-director-method-acting.mp3",24615115,2044,"2023-05-06T16:00:00Z",31,"f59880b5-b805-4b06-826d-4ea12bae695e","Legendary Nights","legendary-nights","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13011951-legendary-nights.mp3",26625984,2211,"2023-06-10T01:00:00Z",32,"bb98fc2f-44b3-426e-9bc1-6a6ba2d6368f","Directors Who Give The Best Parts To Their Family","directors-who-give-the-best-parts-to-their-family","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13097952-directors-who-give-the-best-parts-to-their-family.mp3",21824675,1811,"2023-06-24T06:00:00Z",33,"61158f41-ad4a-48b9-9687-7aedaf9b9324","Keyboard Warriors","keyboard-warriors","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13426093-keyboard-warriors.mp3",19067008,1582,"2023-08-17T23:00:00Z","56405462-cd20-4e45-b09d-8ee6bf892ec8","Hello Dolly at the Redlands Bowl","hello-dolly-at-the-redlands-bowl","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13473005-hello-dolly-at-the-redlands-bowl.mp3",21619111,1795,"2023-08-26T03:00:00Z","54e252d8-14c0-421e-8108-8676873158a9","New Season at Play With Your Food","new-season-at-play-with-your-food","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13558894-new-season-at-play-with-your-food.mp3",23805498,"2023-09-09T06:00:00Z","522213aa-1cef-41c0-a3d4-d88fef0e7c43","Steel Magnolias In The Round","steel-magnolias-in-the-round","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13731484-steel-magnolias-in-the-round.mp3",19962456,1656,"2023-10-06T23:00:00Z","fced46c6-2cf3-4d52-bd42-e25f672fabd7","Casting Different Races","casting-different-races","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13775625-casting-different-races.mp3",27430202,2279,"2023-10-14T08:00:00Z","27e0b156-45b2-44b1-9ce9-9d8655390f2f","Controversial Lessons in Theater","controversial-lessons-in-theater","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/13907798-controversial-lessons-in-theater.mp3",22683826,1883,"2023-11-04T20:00:00Z","198e7fb5-c0b4-49f3-a167-f0dc4b6fe7f4","Back in the Saddle","back-in-the-saddle","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/14388913-back-in-the-saddle.mp3",22454914,"2024-01-27T20:00:00Z","580ada52-01d3-4128-b54f-37eb7c40f7d2","Lessons from 2023","lessons-from-2023","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/14431630-lessons-from-2023.mp3",20645563,1713,"2024-02-03T08:00:00Z","11e4a6d8-c2a1-4dbe-8e68-612e91a55f59","Upcoming Shows At Legendary Productions and Play With Your Food","upcoming-shows-at-legendary-productions-and-play-with-your-food","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/14476174-upcoming-shows-at-legendary-productions-and-play-with-your-food.mp3",21463552,1782,"2024-02-10T09:00:00Z",9,"ca286546-6071-4ec0-922e-15507aaa85dc","Questions From Our Listeners","questions-from-our-listeners","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/14520260-questions-from-our-listeners.mp3",24432746,2029,"2024-02-17T08:00:00Z","ca1f8533-380e-4227-a12b-5a6905343ddb","Bell, Book and Candle/ Little Shop of Horrors","bell-book-and-candle-little-shop-of-horrors","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/14656517-bell-book-and-candle-little-shop-of-horrors.mp3",22982853,1908,"2024-03-09T05:00:00Z","7d233e6b-d90f-4b77-b9f3-809c26397b7f","Theater Trivia","theater-trivia","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/14700310-theater-trivia.mp3",23255642,1931,"2024-03-16T09:00:00Z","edd9c857-b4cb-4c0f-b26c-ba3f191b96e2","Theater in the Classrooms","theater-in-the-classrooms","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/15132528-theater-in-the-classrooms.mp3",17557325,1456,"2024-05-24T22:00:00Z","f957ac83-ba38-4c3e-bf4f-303d701dd182","The Little Mermaid And Rigby Redd","the-little-mermaid-and-rigby-redd","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/15173122-the-little-mermaid-and-rigby-redd.mp3",28950989,2405,"2024-06-01T00:00:00Z","e2e0b168-2e58-4ee5-8ae5-e1380bf31ae6","Misery","misery","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/15214884-misery.mp3",22594313,1876,"2024-06-08T05:00:00Z","b4cd5092-1acf-4aca-b2b4-7a00e7d7dbd1","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/18738353-back-in-the-saddle.mp3",20542927,1705,"2026-02-24T08:00:00Z","b8d0d6c6-930e-48e6-a2f8-4d692581e2b6","A Barrage of Questions","a-barrage-of-questions","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/18799285-a-barrage-of-questions.mp3",20070044,1665,"2026-03-06T01:00:00Z","66128de0-e0c8-4114-9c17-306fb5eec2a1","Actors and Use of Social Media","actors-and-use-of-social-media","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/18859150-actors-and-use-of-social-media.mp3",27374528,2274,"2026-03-17T02:00:00Z","ee3cb086-2810-44c4-9a6d-323e6e09f3a4","Drama, Controversy, Nothing Personal!","drama-controversy-nothing-personal","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19049343-drama-controversy-nothing-personal.mp3",22395199,1859,"2026-04-20T22:00:00Z","175ecdf5-d42d-49b2-9f3e-03b49af36137","Relationships Between Actors And Directors","relationships-between-actors-and-directors","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19080690-relationships-between-actors-and-directors.mp3",23008532,1910,"2026-04-27T02:00:00Z","a8e9f8f8-1a3b-4efb-beec-399139a31ffb","Community Theater, Professional Theater (Both are Great)","community-theater-professional-theater-both-are-great","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19118531-community-theater-professional-theater-both-are-great.mp3",23319602,1936,"2026-05-04T01:00:00Z","18226d2f-71de-4b44-9d76-c50e197d8bdc","Chemistry Between Actors","chemistry-between-actors","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19151545-chemistry-between-actors.mp3",23615240,1961,"2026-05-10T07:00:00Z","d94b2e1b-ec40-4b12-b7f5-f6b67b0c7c38","The Most Important Thing Directors and Actors Forget…","the-most-important-thing-directors-and-actors-forget","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19193158-the-most-important-thing-directors-and-actors-forget.mp3",22228759,1845,"2026-05-18T02:00:00Z","f0c1ad5e-d65c-4f80-8fac-f5e26ff9b8ae","Theater: Welcoming Community or Private Club","theater-welcoming-community-or-private-club","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19229336-theater-welcoming-community-or-private-club.mp3",23041058,1912,"2026-05-24T15:00:00Z","7343ed2d-8bb2-46a6-bab0-ce6fe54a82f9","The Problem With Being Prepared","the-problem-with-being-prepared","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19266913-the-problem-with-being-prepared.mp3",22175696,1840,"2026-05-31T07:00:00Z","dc668e40-7a8f-44e3-85cc-f9c3db26f584","Revisiting Negative Experiences","revisiting-negative-experiences","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19306352-revisiting-negative-experiences.mp3",25854504,2194,"2026-06-07T06:00:00Z","e6d11799-e51c-45e1-aa0f-2245077fb9e2","AI: Art or Cheating","ai-art-or-cheating","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19342616-ai-art-or-cheating.mp3",20383619,1690,"2026-06-14T07:00:00Z","8b141ba1-bef9-4439-80b1-f1ee4201897d","What Nobody Warns You About Your First Show","what-nobody-warns-you-about-your-first-show","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19377136-what-nobody-warns-you-about-your-first-show.mp3",20723799,1719,"2026-06-21T07:00:00Z","537f0184-58f5-4af0-937f-4779ed2782e8","Supporting Local Theater: The Redlands Theater Festival","supporting-local-theater-the-redlands-theater-festival","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19416216-supporting-local-theater-the-redlands-theater-festival.mp3",21376872,1773,"2026-06-29T04:00:00Z","712a41c3-0f24-4cb3-a153-9bc7cce65392","Upstaging Gentlemen With Their Upstaging Daughters","upstaging-gentlemen-with-their-upstaging-daughters","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19445728-upstaging-gentlemen-with-their-upstaging-daughters.mp3",25441902,2112,"2026-07-05T07:00:00Z","More Than Just Steps","more-than-just-steps","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19480647-more-than-just-steps.mp3",21607986,1793,"2026-07-12T07:00:00Z","1cacdaa2-44fa-4317-875f-ba24e12849d9","Actor Burnout: The Silent Epidemic","actor-burnout-the-silent-epidemic","https://www.buzzsprout.com/2042548/episodes/19513770-actor-burnout-the-silent-epidemic.mp3",20766666,1723,"2026-07-19T07:00:00Z","7144aef2-97f5-421d-a63a-77f643698c08","Are You Fake If You Play Both 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More Than Just Steps

Episode Description

Never lose your place, on any device