Mark Lee planted Vantage Point Church in Eastvale, California in the middle of the 2008 recession with no money, no building (their only option was a junior high cafetorium), and a lot of doubt. Nearly two decades later, he joins David Hibiske to talk candidly about what it actually takes to survive the long haul of church planting. Mark unpacks the generosity that helped launch his church, the identity crisis he hit around year five, the "Dream, Do, Doldrums" framework that got him through burnout, and why he believes church planters don't quit because they run out of money. They quit because they get crushed under the weight of their own disappointment. This episode is a grounded, honest look at perseverance, reframing pain, and staying faithful to a calling that rarely looks like it does on Instagram.

Welcome to Episode 054 of The Unfair Advantage Podcast with David Hibiske.