The battle over DHS funding has erupted into a high-stakes political showdown—and the consequences could reshape U.S. immigration policy for years to come.

In this episode, Lisa welcomes RJ Hauman & Mike Howell from the National Immigration Center for Enforcement to break down why Republicans pushed to separate DHS funding from the broader omnibus, how Democrats are leveraging the moment to target ICE and CBP, and what it means for border security and mass deportation efforts under President Trump.

RJ & Mike dive into the internal GOP divide over immigration enforcement, the political strategy behind the shutdown, and the growing pressure from media narratives and activist movements. Plus, we examine the real-world impact on ICE agents, rising tensions in sanctuary cities, and the looming threat of midterm fallout.

Key topics include:

• The DHS shutdown and funding standoff explained

• Efforts to isolate ICE and CBP—and why it matters

• Trump’s mass deportation agenda and political obstacles

• Media narratives vs. on-the-ground enforcement reality

• Sanctuary cities, voter laws, and the 2030 census implications

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