Dr. Karl Payne joined us for an incredible interview with this long-time pastor who served 20+ years as a chaplain for the Seattle Seahawks.

Dr. Payne tells the story of who how spiritual warfare walked into his front room and changed his ministry forever, which all led to him writing this MUST HAVE book for all Christians: 

Spiritual Warfare: Christian, Demonization, and Deliverance

We did a deep dive with Dr. Payne about:  

• Demonization
• Oppression v. Demonization
• Practical ways to discern if you are hearing from God vs the demonic.

Finally, we learn a simple, transferable framework to engage in spiritual warfare and help set people free: the three C’s — Confess, Cancel, Command.

This is a practical, Bible-centered conversation for pastors, counselors and any believer wanting clear, usable tools for spiritual battles.

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