For decades historical Jesus scholars assumed the birth stories in the Gospels (Matthew 1 & 2 and Luke 1 & 2) were not historical accounts; but they were legends or myths.  Case Closed.  

Not so fast. Caleb Friedeman is reopening the cold case and asking the right kinds of questions. Not just of the Gospels, but of other kinds of ancient biographies. The kinds you read in Suetonius, Philo, and Plutarch, just to name a few.  
Did they intend to write history? Or not?  How can you tell?  This is part one of a two-part conversation.  

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For Caleb's book: Gospel Birth Narratives and Historiography: Reopening a Closed Case