Episode Description
Are we witnessing accountability — or hysteria? Michael welcomes Free Press senior editor Joe Nocera to unpack the growing fallout from the release of the Epstein files. As more names surface, the debate intensifies: Is this about proven wrongdoing, or has it become guilt by association? They discuss Nocera’s recent conversation with former Senator and Medal of Honor recipient Bob Kerrey, who found himself under scrutiny for a brief, years-old meeting with Jeffrey Epstein — and responded in characteristically blunt fashion, resigning from a company by saying "Adios, MF-ers." A candid, nuanced discussion about power, presumption of innocence, and the consequences of association in the Epstein era. Original air date 3 March 2026.