In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Jeremy Chatelain for an in-depth conversation about his journey through some of the most influential corners of hardcore, alternative rock, and indie music. Jeremy reflects on his early days in Utah’s hardcore scene playing in Insight and Iceburn, where the DIY ethos and tight-knit community helped shape his musical foundation and work ethic.

The conversation moves into his time fronting Handsome, the New York–based supergroup that featured members of Helmet and Quicksand. Jeremy shares what it was like stepping into a major-label spotlight, the creative intensity behind the band’s self-titled release, and why the project, though short-lived, continues to resonate with fans decades later. He also opens up about collaborating with Blake Schwarzenbach in Jets to Brazil, a band that marked a stylistic shift into more melodic, emotionally driven songwriting and became a defining act in late-’90s indie rock.

Jeremy also discusses touring as a bassist with Helmet, contrasting that experience with his other creative outlets, and dives into his long-running project Cub Country, where he explores a more introspective, roots-influenced sound. Throughout the episode, he reflects on artistic evolution, the challenges of navigating different genres, and the lessons learned from decades of collaboration and reinvention. It’s an honest and thoughtful look at a musician who has continually followed creativity wherever it leads.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.