Catherine Grace Katz joins us to talk about her new book, Shadow Before the Flame: The Hindenburg Disaster and the Prelude to War, and just how much the story of the ill-fated German Zepplin can tell us about the world in the years between World War I and World War II.

You can pre-order your copy of Shadow Before the Flame at Catherine's website, CatherineGraceKatz.com.

This episode was edited by Ben Sawyer.