How does President Vučić justify Serbia's geopolitical balancing act between Russia, China, and the European Union? Why does he warn that if the EU further delays enlargement, the United States might seize the opportunity to build its own sphere of influence in Southeastern Europe? Can Serbia join the EU without recognising Kosovo's independence, and what would that mean for Europe's future?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Aleksandar Vučić, President of Serbia, to discuss all this and more.

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Social Producer: Celine Charles

Videographer: James Clayden,

Video Editor: Josh Smith, Vasco Andrade

Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne

Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen

Exec Producer: Chris Sawyer

General Manager: Tom Whiter

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