If the first hundred days of a papacy can shake up the Catholic church, how much drama occurs over 80 years? 

For journalist Philip Shenon, there has been a constant tension – how much should the church judge the modern world and how much mercy should it extend? 

Philip’s the author of a sweeping new history of the church since World War II. 

It’s called Jesus Wept – Seven Popes and the Battle for The Soul of the Catholic Church. It chronicles the triumphs, controversies, and politics of the popes before Leo. 

GUEST

• Philip Shenon, author and journalist

This program was first broadcast in August and was made on the lands of the Gadigal People.