What if your most powerful business development strategywasn’t another pitch—but a conversation?

In this new episode of The Pursuit Desk, recorded live at the 2025 LMA Annual Conference, Jason Noble sits down with Debra Filippin, Head of Marketing and Business Development for Asia Pacific at HFW, to talk about the power of listening—and how law firms can turn feedback into lasting relationships.

If you’ve ever struggled to get honest client input, aligninternal teams, or prove the ROI of relationship management, this episode is for you.