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The Lean Startup Author on New Book Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great | Eric Ries | E297
Episode Description
Eric Ries wrote The Lean Startup — a book that has sold over 2 million copies and reshaped how a generation of founders and product teams build products. Fifteen years later, he's back with a new book, Incorruptible, and a harder question: not how to build a great company, but how to keep it that way.
What you'll learn:
- Why the forces destroying great companies are structural, not moral — and what that means for how you build
- How Saul Price built FedMart, and Costco's Jim Sinegal each solved half the problem, and why you need both halves
- How Anthropic used a purpose trust structure, the Long-Term Benefit Trust, to protect its safety mission from investor pressure
- Why values on the wall fail and what the Johnson & Johnson asbestos scandal reveals about how incentives quietly overwrite principles
- How builders at any level of an organization can start influencing governance without a title or authority
Key takeaways:
- Success makes you a target: the more valuable your company becomes, the more pressure it faces to betray the mission that made it valuable
- Ethos is the real moat: the intangible system of principles that makes a company trustworthy is harder to copy than any product or contract
- Governance is not a legal formality; it is the active, ongoing practice of protecting what you built from the forces that will try to extract it
Credits:
Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Eric Ries
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