Julia Ioffe joins Peter for an inside look at the Munich Security Conference and the anxiety over the future of the transatlantic alliance after Trump set off a crisis over Greenland. Julia reflects on Marco Rubio’s superficially reassuring speech promising a shared future with Europe—and the lingering unease that Washington has abandoned the liberal world order.

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