In this episode of the Pioneer Podcast, I sit down with veteran broadcaster Gareth Cliff — from 5FM success and 11 seasons on Idols to founding CliffCentral. Gareth explains why he left mainstream radio for independent digital media, how he fought (and won) a landmark legal battle over a cancel-culture controversy, and why he’s lost faith in South Africa’s political leadership. We also discuss the decay of legacy media and free speech in the podcast era.

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