Episode Description
The Patriarchy Podcast | Pastor Joseph Spurgeon
In this episode, Pastor Joseph Spurgeon sits down with James Baird, pastor and author of King of Kings, to dismantle the modern lie that the state can or should be religiously neutral. From towering pagan idols on American soil to the plain teaching of Psalm 2, this conversation exposes the reality every nation tries to avoid: every law serves a god, and every ruler will answer to Christ.
We discuss Christian nationalism, answer objections from R2K theology, libertarianism, and theonomy, and return to historic Protestant political theology rooted in Scripture, the Westminster Standards, and the American founding. This is not about replacing the Church with the State. It is about rulers doing their God-given duty.
Christ is King. Over hearts, but also over nations.
⏱ Chapter Breakdown
00:00 – The lie of state neutrality and America’s pagan idols
02:30 – Psalm 2 and the duty of rulers to honor Christ
04:10 – Who is James Baird and why he wrote King of Kings
06:30 – Why modern evangelical political theology collapsed
11:50 – Christian nationalism: caricature vs historic reality
14:45 – The core argument: government and the public good
17:40 – Answering objections to the syllogism
21:00 – Does this replace the Church with the State?
23:10 – Can the state force Christianity?
25:00 – The First Amendment properly understood
29:10 – Why “protect all religions” is unbiblical
31:30 – Was America a Christian nation?
35:00 – Theonomy, natural law, and civil legislation
41:50 – COVID, tyranny, and bad political theology
44:00 – Is this a recipe for persecution?
50:00 – Pragmatism vs obedience
52:45 – Two Kingdoms theology challenged
Final – Christ’s kingship over nations
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