How an Entrepreneur Built a $500M Business by Having Fun

May 20
31 mins

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Most of us treat fun like a reward we have to earn — but what if play is actually the missing ingredient holding everything else together? First, ⁠Piera Gelardi⁠, creative entrepreneur and co-founder of Refinery29, shares how weaving playfulness into everyday moments can unlock creativity and connection. Then, organizational psychologist ⁠Mike Rucker⁠ makes the case that fun isn't frivolous — it's a habit, and building it into your life can genuinely change everything.

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