Manager of YouTube's Sidemen Jordan Schwarzenberger, BBC crisis latest, Ed Sheeran Netflix producer Ben Winston

Nov 19, 2025
42 mins

Episode Description

Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins discuss the latest developments in the BBC’s ongoing crisis after President Trump threatens a multi-billion dollar lawsuit with: Baroness Tina Stowell, Conservative Peer and former Head of Corporate Affairs at the BBC and the Media Editor at the Sunday Times Rosamund Urwin. Phil Riley, co-founder of Boom Radio, warns that BBC Radio risks becoming an 'orphan asset' unless the BBC rethinks its funding and leadership and Jordan Schwarzenberger, co-founder of Arcade Media and manager of The Sidemen, argues Gen Z won’t pay the licence fee and calls for a creator-led, platform-savvy BBC that can compete in a decentralised media world.

And Ben Winston, producer of The Kardashians, Gavin and Stacey, and the upcoming 2028 Olympic ceremonies talks about his latest project: a Netflix documentary with Ed Sheeran, filmed entirely in one take.

Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Martha Owen

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