Susan Schwartz: Can Narcissists Find Love?

Oct 20, 2025
44 mins

Episode Description

Are narcissists capable of love? Is it possible for them to achieve emotional transformation through therapy? And what does it mean to be the partner of a narcissist? Jungian psychoanalyst and friend of the podcast DR SUSAN SCHWARTZ joins Andrew this week to discuss her new book, An Analytical Exploration of Love and Narcissism: The Tragedy of Isolation and Intimacy

Drawing on Jungian concepts and the myth of Narcissus and Echo, Susan explains:

  • How we misunderstand narcissism
  • The creative energy of the narcissist
  • The ways narcissists can be deeply vulnerable
  • How narcissists can learn to be emotionally intimate.

Dr Susan Schwartz is a Jungian analyst who trained in Switzerland and lives in the USA. She teaches in numerous Jungian programs, workshops, and lectures in the USA and worldwide. She is also a clinical psychologist and member of the International Association of Analytical Psychology. Her other books include:The Absent Father Effect on Daughters, A Jungian Exploration of the Puella Archetype  and Imposter Syndrome and The ‘As-If’ Personality in Analytical Psychology.

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This week supporters will hear:

  • Why are narcissists so compelling?
  • Three Things Susan Schwartz knows to be true. 
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Follow Up

Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things 

Read Dr Susan Schwartz’s new book, An Analytical Exploration of Love and Narcissism: The Tragedy of Isolation and Intimacy 

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Listen to Andrew’s previous interviews with Dr Susan Schwartz: Daughters and Fathers, and Imposter Syndrome

Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools 

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