Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's August 2025 interview with Anna Paulina Luna.

• The Conversation | Belief in alien visits to Earth is spiralling out of control – here's why that's so dangerous

• Skeptical Inquirer | The Big Sur UFO: An Identified Flying Object

• Skeptical Inquirer| 'Buzzing Bee' Missile Mythology Flies Again 

Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2365.

Listen to our other shows:

• Cecil - Cognitive Dissonance and Citation Needed

• Marsh - Skeptics with a K and The Skeptic Podcast

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