John talks about Trump speaking about his version of Christianity at the National Prayer Breakfast and Speaker Mike Johnson trying to out Christian the pope by mansplaining how borders are in the bible and they're what God wants. Then, he speaks with Boston Globe staff writer Abdallah Fayyad about Trump and his obsession with rigging elections and the increasing problems with the ICE Gestapo. And John interviews author Sasha Abramsky about his new book American Carnage: How Trump, Musk and DOGE Butchered the US Government.

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