Have you ever felt like life is moving fast, you’re doing everything right, but something still feels off? In this episode, I sit down with Arthur Brooks, a behavioral scientist at Harvard University, to talk about why achievement doesn’t always bring fulfillment, how busyness can pull you away from the people you love, and why meaning usually shows up through struggle. We talk about marriage, faith, ambition, and the habits that actually lead to happiness. This conversation made me rethink what success really is—and what kind of life is actually worth building.

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