In this episode, Andrew and Dave delve into the intricate business models of Visa and MasterCard. They discuss the performance and history of these companies, emphasizing Visa's American-centric focus compared to MasterCard's international reach. The conversation covers the concept of a duopoly and how both companies have become dominant players through strong network effects.

They analyze the revenue streams of Visa, including service revenues, data processing, international transactions, and value-added services, and discuss the growth potential of these segments. The episode also compares Visa and MasterCard with competitors like American Express and Discover, highlighting the differences in their business models. Key risks such as regulation, real-time payments, and platform power are examined. The episode concludes by exploring the future of the industry and the potential for further innovation in payment systems.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

00:30 Why Care About Visa and MasterCard?

00:50 History and Overview of Visa and MasterCard

04:00 Understanding the Business Model

13:53 Revenue Streams of Visa

24:50 Comparing Visa and MasterCard

25:52 Competitors: American Express and Discover

30:59 Risks and Future Outlook

39:58 Conclusion and Additional Resources

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