This episode is a role reversal.

After a Grand Canyon hike, on the drive back to Flagstaff, Dr. Tom Myers (Mr. Grand Canyon) takes over the mic and interviews Brian.

There is no trail breakdown, no route discussion, and no gear talk. Instead, Tom asks Brian direct questions and lets the conversation unfold naturally.

Topics covered include:

• How the Grand Canyon Hiker Dude Show started
• Brian’s background before the podcast
• An anecdote involving Charles Barkley
• A discussion of Brian's Shark Tank appearance
• Brian responding emotionally during part of the conversation

The episode is conversational and unscripted, with Brian answering questions he usually asks others.

Sometimes, the best conversations come...are on the drive home.

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