Former DHS official Miles Taylor, author of the "Anonymous" op-ed, returns to discuss Trump's second term agenda, the courts, and the missing "axis of adults." Pesca opens with a theory on why deportees landed in Eswatini, then closes with a spiel on the immigration conundrum: border deterrence versus humane policy. Taylor explains "permission structures," why resistance cascaded in 2020 but not 2024, how this White House could test the judiciary, what Rubio's evolution signals, how patronage is used to quiet critics, and why satire can move persuadables better than lectures.

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