Navigated to The Future of Marketing Isn’t Courses w/ Ryan Deiss | Ep 395

The Future of Marketing Isn’t Courses w/ Ryan Deiss | Ep 395

November 6
1h 14m

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Episode Description

In this episode, Chris Do sits down with entrepreneur and Digital Marketer founder Ryan Deiss to explore how his early ventures shaped a multimillion-dollar business empire and what led to his public “retirement” from online courses.

Ryan unpacks his journey from selling eBooks in college to scaling a $200M portfolio and why he believes adaptability is the key to long-term success. They discuss what happens when business identity and personal identity collide, the decline of digital courses, and how AI is reshaping the marketing landscape.


Timestamps

(00:00) - Intro

(01:04) - $200M portfolio snapshot

(03:38) - First client, no skills

(05:23) - Risk time, not money

(07:11) - Who you serve lesson

(09:26) - SEO baby-food eBook

(12:42) - From maker to publisher

(15:19) - Licensing flat-fee deals

(20:18) - Six-month job, quit

(28:41) - Course revenue collapse

(34:25) - Hard pivot calculus

(39:46) - Identity, failure, recovery

(41:28) - Message to entrepreneurs

(48:37) - Pivot to AI services

(52:41) - 10-80-10 AI workflow

(54:56) - Sell certainty, outcomes

(01:02:13) - Transformation vs. identity


Check out today's guest, Ryan Deiss:

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryandeiss

Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.ryandeiss.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryandeiss/


Check out The Futur:

Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thefutur.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Courses: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thefutur.com/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Linkedin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thefutur.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Check out Chris Do:

Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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