The Business of Scamming (feat. Mael from Infoblox)

February 20
52 mins

Episode Description

Welcome back to The FAIK Files!

In this week's episode, we sat down with Maël Le Touz, who works as a threat researcher at Infoblox.com (a DDI security provider). We asked him about:

  • Defining "pig butchering" and how it differs from traditional online scams.
  • The human trafficking nightmare behind the scamming compounds in Southeast Asia.
  • How Infoblox uses DNS security to track industrial-scale scam operations and their ties to organized crime.
  • The rise of "Scamming as a Service" and how AI is supercharging the deception.
  • Debunking VPN myths and practical advice on how to safely help a victim of a scam.

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*** NOTES AND REFERENCES  ***

What is Pig Butchering?:

  • Mael from Infoblox explains the long-term emotional manipulation involved in pig butchering, leading to massive financial losses.
  • Unlike traditional quick scams, these attackers spend weeks or months building deep trust before pulling the rug.

Inside the Scam Compounds:

  • The tragic reality that many of the people perpetrating these scams are actually human trafficking victims themselves.
  • Individuals are lured with fake job offers, trapped in heavily guarded compounds in Cambodia and Myanmar, and forced to meet strict financial quotas under threat of violence.

Tracking Scams via DNS:

  • How Infoblox monitors DNS resolution to uncover massive clusters of fraudulent domains.
  • The surprising connections between scam infrastructure, illegal casinos, and organized crime triads laundering billions.

The Industrialization of Scams & AI:

  • Scammers now buy "Scamming as a Service" kits, complete with fake websites, coherent social media personas, and proxy networks.
  • AI is being weaponized to automate initial contact, provide real-time translation, and generate detailed shift summaries for scammers working around the clock.

VPN Myths and Helping Victims:

  • Mael clarifies what VPNs actually do and highlights the hidden dangers of cheap streaming boxes secretly acting as residential proxies for criminals.
  • Practical advice on how to gently guide someone into realizing they are being scammed without making them defensive or pushing them further away.

*** THE BOILERPLATE ***

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