Do you ever feel we do science a disservice on this segment? In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Karolina "Kaja" Skraskova who makes a case for herbalists being better scientists, and takes us to task for blaming science for the state of the world. Kaja is a herbalist and pharmacist with a PhD in analytical chemistry. She specialises in the crafting of topical herbal medicines based on Galenic principles. Kaja is the founder and formulator behind Herbae Thylacini, an award-winning herbal skin care range. Through her series of online courses, Herbal Skin Craft, Oily Craft and Full Craft, she trains health practitioners, herbalists and skin care makers to formulate personalised herbal skincare for a wide range of dermatological conditions.

**SHOW NOTES**

Find Dr Kaja's skincare courses here.

Listen to an earlier episode where Jessyca Bosscha interviews Kaja here.

Check out the books and authors we mentioned during the episode:

• James Lovelock, Gaia: A new look at life on Earth.
• Jason Hickel. The Divide. Or follow Jason on social media here.
• Edwin Land's Biography, Insisting on the Impossible.

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