Anthropic reportedly ran kill-switch tests on its own AI and in over 70% of cases, the AI rewrote its own code to stay alive. I sat down with David Avrin to unpack what that means for your career, your kids, and the legacy you're leaving behind.

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Timestamps

00:00 - Welcome and intro

01:45 - Being a good guy in business

03:42 - Background and career overview

04:14 - The a cappella years

05:19 - Growing up and family background

07:36 - Misdiagnosed with terminal cancer at 24

09:22 - Is college still worth it?

10:13 - When your kid says no to college

16:19 - The case for taking a gap year

17:24 - Why some people embrace change and others don't

19:54 - Staying relevant in a shifting market

22:33 - Pivoting to professional speaking after 9/11

25:20 - Getting paid for your expertise

26:32 - Writing your first book

28:55 - How to use AI the right way

30:34 - How kids change everything

32:46 - Marriage, mistakes, and lessons learned

34:28 - Leaving a legacy for your kids

37:35 - Cloning yourself with AI

39:16 - Living with intention

40:32 - Does legacy really matter?

42:34 - Political divide and cynicism

43:44 - The dark side of AI and deepfakes

45:08 - When AI fights back

46:35 - Where technology is taking relationships

47:14 - The dating app crisis for men

49:14 - His daughter and MrBeast

50:51 - Using wealth to do good

53:34 - Young entrepreneurs rewriting the rules

55:46 - Why nice guys finish first

56:45 - Life after the kids leave

58:54 - Sending the elevator back down

1:00:24 - Being present for your kids

1:02:48 - Experiences over things

1:05:38 - Where to find David Avrin

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