In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum is joined by John McConnell, the longtime senior speechwriter for President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, to discuss their memories of September 11, 2001—25 years later. 

Then, David ends with a discussion of “American Pastoral,” a novel by Philip Roth, and what we can learn about domestic terrorism from the book.

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