Dave turns a solo episode into a shabu-shabu meal with our pal Chris Ying.

They talk about the beauty of dishes like shabu-shabu, whether they like fish balls, and how Dave makes a delicious sauce for the dish.

The duo then talks about Dave's recent trip to San Francisco, Chef Corey Lee and his restaurants, and both the admiration and ire Corey causes in Dave... for being so dang good.

Learn more about Haidilao: https://www.haidilao-inc.com/us

Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/

Learn more about San Ho Won: https://www.sanhowon.com/

Learn more about The French Laundry: https://thomaskeller.com/tfl/

Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Gramercy Tavern: https://www.gramercytavern.com/

Learn more about Per Se: https://thomaskeller.com/perseny/

Learn more about Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon: https://amzn.to/46a8uMZ

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Chris Ying

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Donald LoBianco, Elizabeth Styles, Lighting Dionte Mercado 

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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