Terry Real has spent 40 years working with couples on the brink of divorce, and he argues the core problem is that we live in a culture that values personal growth and ignores relational growth. Women have changed. Men largely have not. And the result is a silent crisis playing out inside marriages around the world.

In this conversation, Terry and Lorin go deep on what it actually takes to build a lasting relationship: why traditional masculinity is, in Terry's words, a relational disability; the difference between individual empowerment and relational empowerment; how to hold your ground and love someone at the same time; and why shame and grandiosity are two sides of the same coin.

This is one of the most direct, practical conversations on real relationship work you will find anywhere.

Referenced in this episode:

• terryreal.com | Terry Real, creator of Relational Life Therapy
• Terry Real on Instagram: @realterryreal
• YouTube: ‪@realterryreal‬

Books mentioned in the episode: https://terryreal.com/books/

• Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship
• I Don't Want to Talk About It

Mentioned in this episode:

The Core Method™
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Healing Your Relationship with the Masculine
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