On this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the collapse of the Iran ceasefire and what it signals for U.S. foreign policy as tensions rise in the Strait of Hormuz. With negotiations failing after high-stakes talks involving J.D. Vance, the conversation shifts to whether economic warfare—not diplomacy—will define the next phase of the conflict.

MK & Karol also dive into the political chaos back home, including the growing scandal surrounding Eric Swalwell and how it could reshape California’s gubernatorial race. Plus, what Viktor Orbán’s election loss means for Europe’s political future—and whether the “populist wave” is really over.

To close, Mary Katharine and Karol tackle a cultural debate that’s lighting up social media: should unmarried women have a voice in conservative spaces? It’s a candid, funny, and insightful conversation about modern expectations, marriage, and the evolving role of women in politics and media.

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