You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Savala Nolan.

Savala is a writer, public speaker and professor at UC Berkeley. Her brand new book, Good Woman: A Reckoning is out now. Her first book, Don’t Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender and the Body, was shortlisted for the William Saroyan Prize and celebrated as a “standout collection” by the New York Times. Savala's writing has been featured in Vogue, Harper’s Magazine, the New York Times, NPR, TIME and more.

This conversation originally ran as a paywalled episode in March, but today we're unlocking it for everyone to enjoy!

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If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 31:30. You can read the transcript from our original Peptide Bros episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!

BUTTER & LINKS

Virginia's Butter: Heated Rivalry, the show and the books

Savala's Butter: being around water, and extremely trashy reality TV that features a love story

One last thing! If you order Good Woman from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "fat talk" at checkout.

https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-but-164981135

EPISODE CREDITS

Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.

Producer: Kim Baldwin.

Logo design: Deanna Lowe.

Theme Song: Farideh.

Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku

Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron

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