The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Doc Rivers to talk about the NBA Finals, Knicks coaching, Giannis trades, and much, much more!

(0:00) Intro

(2:37) Doc Rivers’s NBA Finals reaction, Brunson’s greatness, and Mike Brown’s coaching

(01:07:44) Giannis’s next stop, worries for coaches in 2026, and best current referees

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Doc Rivers

Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo

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