V. Paul welcomes Dave Narcizo (one of his all time favorite drummers) of Throwing Muses and Lakuna to the pod. They get into growing up in Newport, the formation of Throwing Muses, signing to 4AD, the Boston scene, the late great, Gary Smith, and much, much more.

Theme and outro music by V. Paul Janbazian • Caspian Seal Sounds and Music, ASCAP

Background music by HitsLab • Ievgen Poltavsky, BMI

The Basements Were Stars is a Caspian Seal production