Episode Description
In this episode of The Bardo Podcast, comedian Marc Salmon is joined by writer and researcher Gabriel Kennedy, author of Chapel Perilous: The Life & Thought Crimes of Robert Anton Wilson, for a wide-ranging conversation about uncertainty, belief systems, and the art of not knowing.
They explore the life and work of Robert Anton Wilson, including ideas like model agnosticism, reality tunnels, Chapel Perilous, and the SNAFU Principle, and why his thinking feels especially relevant in an age of conspiracy culture, political anxiety, and collapsing narratives.
The conversation moves through anarchism, humour, synchronicity, grief, forgiveness, and self meta programming, looking at how play and uncertainty might offer more honest ways of relating to ourselves and the world.
In this episode we explore:
- Robert Anton Wilson and the art of not knowing
- Model agnosticism and reality tunnels
- Chapel Perilous and synchronicity
- Anarchism and the SNAFU Principle
- Humour, play, and laughter as tools for sense making
- Grief, forgiveness, and transformation
Guest
Gabriel Kennedy is a writer and researcher, and the author of Chapel Perilous: The Life & Thought Crimes of Robert Anton Wilson.
Reading mentioned in this episode
- RAW's obituary in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2007/jan/18/guardianobituaries.usa
- Gabriel Kennedy – Chapel Perilous: The Life & Thought Crimes of Robert Anton Wilson
- Robert Anton Wilson – Cosmic Trigger
- Robert Anton Wilson – Prometheus Rising
- Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea – The Illuminatus! Trilogy
- Robert Anton Wilson – Everything Is Under Control
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About the podcast
The Bardo Podcast explores alternative ways of thinking, inner and outer change, and what happens in the space between.
Hosted by comedian Marc Salmon, the show features thoughtful conversations with comedians, philosophers, Buddhist thinkers, and other curious minds, not about certainty or expertise, but about questioning assumptions and sitting with ambiguity together.
New episodes explore comedy, philosophy, Buddhism, creativity, and alternative ways of living.
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Music by Marc Salmon and Robert Fuller
Artwork by Zoe Brownstone - Check out her special on YouTube