The Atlantic’s McKay Coppins sat down with Ryan and Ashley Smith, owners of the Utah Jazz and Utah Mammoth, to talk about the value of live sports in an AI-driven era, the evolving future of entertainment, and what it means to run and rebuild a professional sports enterprise.

This episode features a conversation recorded on May 11, 2026, in Salt Lake City, Utah, as part of our Atlantic Across America series. It was produced in partnership with the Deseret News’ podcast Deseret Voices. 

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