Why does God allow suffering—and how can it actually be used for good?

In this episode, I’m joined by Clay and Jean E. Jones to explore one of the hardest and most personal questions people ask: not just why evil exists, but how God works through real, painful trials. Drawing from their new book How Does God Use Suffering for Our Good?, they share both theological clarity and deeply personal experiences—including miscarriage, infertility, serious illness, and ongoing battles with cancer.

We discuss the difference between evil and suffering, why our expectations of entitlement shape how we process pain, and how an eternal perspective changes everything. Clay and Jeannie also offer practical tools—like keeping a “truth journal”—to help you navigate suffering with clarity and hope.

This conversation is honest, grounded, and deeply practical for anyone trying to make sense of hardship without resorting to shallow answers or empty optimism.

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