"Charts are good for users, not good for agents. Agents look at the underlying data and do deep analysis."

Mirko Novakovic built Instana, sold it to IBM, and now he's building Dash0, rethinking observability for agents, not humans.

In conversation with Guy Podjarny, he explains:
• why OpenTelemetry turned out to be perfect for AI
• how UX changes when agents are your primary users
• why interactive collaboration beats static chat outputs
• the survival question for observability vendors in the AI era

Only 2-3 people in most companies can truly debug production. That knowledge lives in their heads and disappears when they leave. Mirko's betting agents will change that.

Connect with us here:
Mirko Novakovic: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirkonovakovic/
Dash0: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dash0hq/
Guy Podjarny: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
Tessl: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

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