Jordan interviews Matt Smith, a serial entrepreneur and author of 'The Preparation.' They discuss Matt's journey from the music business to living on a cattle ranch in Uruguay, the genesis of his book, and the importance of mentorship and intergenerational relationships. Matt emphasizes the significance of being, doing, and having, and how young men can create a personal code to guide their lives.

They discuss the structure of learning cycles, the importance of economic value in skills, and the role of entrepreneurship and innovation. The conversation also touches on gender perspectives in education and the future of work, emphasizing personal responsibility and the need for young men to navigate their paths in a rapidly changing world.